Veterans get caught in middle of housing dispute
by Bob Shiles, Staff writer
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Veterans Enoch McNeill, center, and Jerry Brown, right, say that  their lives have improved in the past year since they now have a place to live that they can call home. With the veterans is Gary Floyd, the house manager.|Staff Photo by Bob Shiles
Veterans Enoch McNeill, center, and Jerry Brown, right, say that their lives have improved in the past year since they now have a place to live that they can call home. With the veterans is Gary Floyd, the house manager.|Staff Photo by Bob Shiles
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LUMBERTON — The founder of a home for veterans at 801 E. Seventh St. says the owner of the property wants to put those veterans who can’t pay rent back out on the streets.

But Mary Hill, the owner of New Life Services, a private business that provides mental health and other services to adults and children in Lumberton, says she has no intention of putting the veterans. She says she just wants to guarantee that she gets the money she deserves as owner of the property.

Karla Carter, founder of the veterans home, recently told The Robesonian that Hill wants to turn the home into a boarding house where those veterans who can pay their share of the monthly $800 rent can stay, but those who cannot will have to leave. Carter alleges that Hill’s actions — including trying to ban her from the property despite her having a lease until February — have so upset the six veterans living at the home that they are becoming ill.

“I just want to continue taking care of my veterans and bringing dignity into their lives. I promised these men that they would be cared for and I’m going to do it,” Carter said. “These men have been through a lot. They all have mental and physical problems that need to be addressed ... I saw a glow in that house before. Now all I see is sadness. She (Hill) has destroyed the dignity they had two weeks ago. They don’t know who they can trust.”

Carter opened the home in December. She and her assistant Lecinda Thompson, both employees of New Life Services until earlier this month, have assisted the veterans in handling personal affairs — obtaining VA benefits, getting to doctors appointments, and making sure that all medications are taken. Both say they have spent money out of their own pockets to make sure all of the needs of the home’s residents are met.

“We are like one big family,” Carter said. “We look after each other.”

Both Carter and Thompson have recently been fired by Hill. In addition, Carter has been arrested and removed from the property for allegedly trespassing. She will face trespassing charges in Robeson County District Court on Monday.

Carter said that Hill wants to dismember the veterans home because she contends she is losing money. But, Carter said, this can’t be true because Hill has not had to pay anything for maintaining the home.

Hill says that she has lost money during the time the home has been open. She notes that her expenses have included utilities, supplying a van for transporting the veterans, the cost of salaries for both Carter and Thompson, and other expenses related to operating and maintaining the home. She also says that Carter has been collecting the rent from the veterans but not paying her.

Hill acknowledges that she fired Carter and Thompson because she couldn’t afford to keep paying them as New Life Services employees. She also said that Carter was fired because she had lied on her resume about her educational background and that she had been “insubordinate.” Hill did not elaborate on the charge of insubordination.

“The VA home is still being supported by New Life, but it has to become self-sufficient,” Hill said. “We have a social worker who is now assisting the veterans at the home. We are helping — and will continue to help — wherever we can.”

During a recent interview The Robesonian was told by veterans that their lives had improved since Carter brought them to Lumberton. They said they now have a place to “call home.”

“We don’t want to leave. We’ve had our ups and downs, but we are like a family here,” said Jerry Brown, a Navy veteran originally from Kentucky. “Miss Carter goes 110 percent to help us and make sure we have everything we need.”

Enoch McNeill, a U.S. Army veteran, recalled how Carter found him last November in a hotel near Fayetteville, covered with sores and suffering from kidney problems, diabetes and complications from infections. He was confined entirely to a wheelchair because a gangrenous leg had been amputated.

“My quality of life has improved over a year ago,” McNeill said, noting that in the past month, with the help of an artificial leg, he walked for the first time in five years.

Carter said that she is being supported in her efforts to keep the home open and serve the residents by both the Robeson County Black Caucus and the county’s chapter of the NAACP. Also several churches, such as Hyde Park Baptist, have been supporting the home, she said.

“She is doing a great job. She has an excellent program there,” said Jimmy Gilchrist, president of the Black Caucus. “We want to do everything we can to help her.”

Carter and Thompson are now looking for a new home where they can move the veterans.

“There’s such a big need. There’s so many veterans that need help,” she said.
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seattledoglover
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August 30, 2010
800.00 a month being for the whole house or individually is still an amazing amount. When that house first was sold It ruined 7th street. We used to feel safe and didn't worry much about things. UNTIL they started dropping off recovering drug addicts and they started having prostitutes in and out 24hrs a day. I am still amazed that the lumberton Police dept did close this house down as they were there plenty of times in one month. It amazes me the amount of lies that were told just to get this house started in the first place. If you ask me people that want to open these kinds of places should park them right next door to there own homes. That way they know what we as home owners go thru 24hrs a day. Its just ashame a crying shame.

the owner should be ashamed of herself. these men need help and she just wants to make a buck off the government.

Well lady go move in there and take care of them.
RangerSgt
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August 30, 2010
Yes the rent for this hovel is $800 per month, not that much per vet. All the more reason to keep the social workers on staff. I guarantee you that Hill can't rent this dump to anyone else for this amount of money. Come on, Lumberton code officials, go and inspect this place and do something to make the landlord fix it up for these vets.

She is getting the money from the VA and like so many other crooks, shortchanging the vets. Mr. McIntyre, where are you when things like this happen? You claim you are there for the vets - well now is the time to step in and throw some of your Lumberton weight around.

I hope the two ladies are able to keep their jobs and help these men. Everyone who has endured combat or even the possibility of combat comes back a changed person - for life. This means many times probems with alcolhol, drugs, problems sleeping and holding jobs. Not all vets are of course troubled in the same way, but military service leaves more behind than just old uniforms to pack away and medals and memories. Its the sacred duty of this country to care for them as they cared for you.

Ms. Hill - do the right thing. Stop looking at your profit margin - I'm sure that you are making MORE than enough off of these men even if you kept the social workers.
clothi01
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August 30, 2010
Please read the article. The rent is $800 a month ... not $800 per person!!!
tellingitlikeitis
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August 30, 2010
As you have done to the least one, you have done also unto me.
sushay
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August 30, 2010
$800 EACH per month? REALLY! $4,800.00 a month for 6 veterans to live there? What a sweet little money making operation for the owners/founders of this service. Appalling, but maybe it is an improvement to the neighborhood.

In the past 14 years, I have seen this place turned into one undesirable 'business' after another. Drug addicts were residents for awhile, followed by inmates freshly released from prison and dumped there to serve out their halfway house requirement. 7th Street was actually a nice family neighborhood @ 15 years ago until the owner of this property sold it to a couple who turned it into a halfway house for drug addicts, although they lied to the residents and told them it would NOT be anything of the sort. This was the beginning of the end for the homeowners on the street. Devalued properties and fears for safety were the price that was paid. Once again, thank you City Council (and one Coucilman in particular) for being pro-active in protecting the best interests of this neighborhood - insert sarcasm here-. I digress, but only to point out that perhaps the owner/founder, VA and the City should take lemons and make lemonade here. Stop fighting and suing one another, improve the property, give the veterans a quality of life they deserve without taking all of their money, and become an asset to the neighborhood. It may be 15 years too late, but at least it would be a nice gesture.
seattledoglover
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August 30, 2010
I lived across the street from this house for 18 yrs and there is NOTHING about it that should cost 800$ a month PER PERSON. ITS an unkept DUMP.

living next to it in the past has been nothing but trouble and when we had issue with the residents the OWNER was NO WHERE TO BE FOUND.

800$ a month is a rip off and to treat a vet that way is AWFUL. hope you can sleep at night knowing what your doing to those that served our country with there lives.. shame on you!

Residents that live there you could do better to go get on the housing authority list for a low income apartment.. no one should have to pay 800$ a month for that dump.. what ashame! Please accept my apologies even though I don't own it.. I am ASHAMED!
rh0da
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August 29, 2010
Wow! That place does not look worth $800 a month per person looking from the outside!
TIREDOFTHECRAP
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August 29, 2010
Good job Ranger.... Vets deserve respect... and yes $800/month is pricey.... Look at the place....

Renmandfx, get a life...
RangerSgt
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August 29, 2010
Something smells rotten here. I am reporting this to the Veterans Benefit folks over at Fayetteville. They inspect homes like this and audit books and operational procedures. These vets get a stipend to pay for caregivers and there have been man cases where the so called caregivers take the stipends and basically rob the vets. Not saying that has happened here but the whole operation needs to be investigated asap. 800 dollars a month rent for something in Lumberton is a princely sum.

One for for the landlord. If you mess with those who can't help themselves (God's downtrodden and infirm) for the sake of a dollar, scripture says it will be better for a millstone around your neck and you to be in the sea on the day of judgement. Consider your soul - is it worth only 800 per month? Do the right thing.
renmandfx
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August 29, 2010
so, these veterans how have already given more than their fair share to our country our now just numbers on a page that don't add up to a PROFIT.

Such a shameful attitude.

Well, if MONEY that = profit as opposed to breaking even and covering expenses and if the benefits the veterans receive are not enough that each can chip in a $100 or so to cover the monthly rent and if there are no other grants or stipends to be had, then...

Here's an idea: Lumberton has NO dog day care facility. No place a family dog may be dropped off and cared for during the day while the owner is at work. Nor does it appear there are any dog care workers who would do home visits. The need for dog day care can only be filled by transporting a family dog to Parkton, Hope Mills, or Fayetteville.

Let the veteran's run a small dog day care: one dog per veteran in the house. Win-Win. They get the therapy and income from working with with love-you-no-matter-what animals and the make a daily income while the owners know their dog is helping to provide therapy and is being well cared for.

Considering the going rate in Fayetteville is a minimum of $9/day/dog, just 20 days taking care of 1 dog would bring in $180. Add a second and it's up to $360. Make it a total of five dogs and the rent is paid in full and then some.

It could even be set up such that they are employees of the dog care business and their "pay" is a waiver on the rent.

My dog, which the veterans have already seen and know, will be among the first to demand more than her fair share of their loving on her.
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